AlmaLinux 10 v2

Hi, I came back to the forums to read up on a question I have asked and brought me to ask another question. I am wondering about Alma Linux 10 v2 for a certain machine a bit now.

inxi spec output:

ThinkCentre-72e ~]# inxi -Fxz --za
System:
Kernel: 5.14.0-611.13.1.el9_7.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 2.35.2-67.el9
Console: pty pts/0 Distro: AlmaLinux 9.7 (Moss Jungle Cat) base: RHEL 9.7
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 0967B5U v: ThinkCentre M72e
serial:
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A v: Win8 Pro DPK TPG serial: N/A UEFI: LENOVO
v: F1KT74AUS date: 08/03/2018
CPU:
Info: quad core model: Intel Core i5-3470 bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Ivy Bridge rev: 9 cache: L1: 256 KiB L2: 1024 KiB L3: 6 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 1596 min/max: 1600/3600 cores: 1: 1596 2: 1596 3: 1596
4: 1596 bogomips: 25542
Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics
vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7 bus-ID: 00:02.0
Display: server: ``X.Org`` v: 1.23.2.7 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.7 driver: X:
loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev dri: crocus gpu: i915
resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz
API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: crocus,swrast platforms:
active: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device inactive: wayland
API: OpenGL v: 4.2 vendor: intel mesa v: 25.0.7 glx-v: 1.4
direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 2500 (IVB GT1)
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 drivers: N/A surfaces: N/A devices: 2
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio
vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
API: ALSA v: k5.14.0-611.13.1.el9_7.x86_64 status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.1 status: n/a (root, process)
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: Lenovo driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac:
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 13.32 GiB (2.9%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: SanDisk model: SDSSDH3 500G size: 465.76 GiB
temp: 20 C
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 69.94 GiB used: 9.42 GiB (13.5%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/dm-1
mapped: almalinux-root
ID-2: /boot size: 960 MiB used: 635.4 MiB (66.2%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/sda2
ID-3: /boot/efi size: 3.99 GiB used: 7.1 MiB (0.2%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/sda1
ID-4: /home size: 382.86 GiB used: 3.27 GiB (0.9%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/dm-3
mapped: almalinux-home
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.69 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
dev: /dev/dm-2 mapped: almalinux-swap
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 28.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
Memory: total: 8 GiB available: 7.33 GiB used: 2.81 GiB (38.4%)
igpu: 128 MiB
Processes: 279 Uptime: 58m Init: systemd target: graphical (5)
Packages: N/A Compilers: gcc: 11.5.0 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.8 inxi: 3.3.33
[root@ThinkCentre-72e ~]#

inxi GPU and graphic output:

[root@ThinkCentre-72e ~]# inxi -GSaz --za
System:
Kernel: 5.14.0-611.13.1.el9_7.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 2.35.2-67.el9 clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,gpt2)/vmlinuz-5.14.0-611.13.1.el9_7.x86_64
root=/dev/mapper/almalinux-root ro
crashkernel=1G-2G:192M,2G-64G:256M,64G-:512M
resume=/dev/mapper/almalinux-swap rd.lvm.lv=almalinux/root
rd.luks.uuid=luks-28d835f5-64c3-4a1c-be0a-db9fc5e98228
rd.lvm.lv=almalinux/swap rhgb quiet
Console: pty pts/0 wm: gnome-shell DM: 1: GDM v: 40.1 2: SDDM
note: stopped Distro: AlmaLinux 9.7 (Moss Jungle Cat) base: RHEL 9.7
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics
vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7 process: Intel 22nm
built: 2012-13 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0
chip-ID: 8086:0152 class-ID: 0300
Display: server: ``X.Org`` v: 1.23.2.7 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.7
compositor: gnome-shell driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev
alternate: vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 445x278mm (17.52x10.94")
s-diag: 525mm (20.66")
Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-1 model: Dell 2208WFP serial: <filter>
built: 2009 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 91 gamma: 1.2
size: 470x300mm (18.5x11.81") diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes:
max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400
API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel crocus platforms: device: 0 drv: crocus
device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: crocus surfaceless: drv: crocus x11:
drv: crocus inactive: wayland
API: OpenGL v: 4.2 vendor: intel mesa v: 25.0.7 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.0
direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 2500 (IVB GT1)
device-ID: 8086:0152 memory: 1.46 GiB unified: yes
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.313 layers: 1 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel
HD Graphics 2500 (IVB GT1) driver: N/A device-ID: 8086:0152 surfaces: N/A
device: 1 type: cpu name: llvmpipe (LLVM 20.1.8 256 bits) driver: N/A
device-ID: 10005:0000 surfaces: N/A
[root@ThinkCentre-72e ~]#

So would AlmaLinux 10 v2 have been a better fit for this machine then the currently installed AlmaLinux 9.7 (with the ongoing KDE connect issue)?

How long will AlmaLinux 10 v2 have support until? Will it force Wayland or have X11 options continue? With the onboard GPU it is no problem either way?

Alma 10 v2. AlmaLinux does build a copy of EPEL for 10 v2. as I read through an older post I started here :< AlmaLinux 9.7 or AlmaLinux 10.1

So I wanted to hear your thoughts on this a bit if possible.

-Thanks

This is up to you to decide. Since a v2 variant exists for AlmaLinux 10, you can always try it with live media.

Until May of 2035.

It’s only wayland. There is only Xwayland for the X11 protocol and there won’t be Xorg server support. Your onboard GPU should be fine, but you should probably test this with live media.

RHEL 10, and therefore AlmaLinux 10, has only Wayland.
The “v2” build merely builds same packages with different compiler options, so it does not change options.

AlmaLinux 9 has support to May 2032.
AlmaLinux 10 has support to May 2035. Compiler options do not affect lifetime.

The OS is not really important. What you want to do is.
Therefore the question is, does particular a OS allow you to do what you want?


I do know commercial X11-client applications that do support RHEL 10. Therefore, the XWayland in el10 must be sufficient for them.


I have seen mentions of small third-party repos, which have a X11-based DE – with X11 server packages – built for el10 (RHEL, AlmaLinux, … 10 – but only for v3). Therefore, it might be possible to build (self) X11 server and things that absolutely require it for 10 v2. That is not completely trivial undertaking, so el9 may remain a more suitable platform.