Hi everyone :-) a really newbie question of what version of Alma 8 or 9

Hi folks :slight_smile:

I have a newbie question as i saw another thread about Alma 10 a moment ago.

What version of Alma is using xorg as default display?

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Some background why i ask this dumb question. :smiling_face:

I have i 30years background with windows on desktops and 20years with server so i know windows in my sleep…
But i started to poke a bit on linux for the first time in my life in 2018(Mint18) at home as a replacement for win7EOL 2020… The spring in 2019 i switched over to Linux as my daily driver at home… (LMDE)… Then i went Debian in 2021…
So my knowledge so far is all Debian based.

My servers is still running win-server, as i know that system best (for time being).
My plan in 2019 was to switch my servers to CentOS when i started to feel a bit “comfortable” with Linux… and then came IBM. as you all already know. lol :sweat_smile:

So i started to listen on all you others on the net what way to go… Alma or Rocky… and most is talking warm about Alma… So here i am. :smiley: :smiley:

So as I’m new to the Linux server concept and have no Rhel experience… and as i already has started to get a feeling of xorg… So i dont want to start learning my first Linux-server steps with learning Wayland.

So that is why i asked this dumb newbie question of what Alma version has xorg as default.

Please dont lynch me yet. :kissing_heart: LOL :rofl:

//Marie

The X11 protocol is some four decades old. Already two decades ago it seemed clear that a redesign from scratch will be better in the long run than continuation of piling (with duct tape) new features to the X11. Wayland is the “new” alternative.

Red Hat has removed xorg from the el10; Wayland is the current future. In that sense putting effort on X11 seems a bit late now. Then again, el9 has xorg and will be around to 2032; many years to be happy with xorg.


Both el8 and el9 do have xorg. Lets assume that the GDM uses Wayland if it can.
There will be a cog-wheel, once you have selected/written username and are about to type password.
That cog-wheel lists available sessions. There can be both Wayland and X11 based Gnome sessions on the list. If you select non-default session, then systems to remember that choice on future logins.


Look at /etc/gdm/custom.conf. Is there line:

# WaylandEnable=false

if yes, then edit the file to remove the comment:

WaylandEnable=false

and reboot. After reboot the GDM is forced to use X11 and will not offer Wayland-based sessions for users.


Personally, I do not install GUI on “servers”; I do manage them with CLI tools. In fact, I do manage workstations that do have GUI with those CLI tools too.

Hi :slight_smile: and thanks for your reply :slight_smile:

Yeah i know X11 is old and Wayland is the future, so i know i will have to take that step eventually.
I’m swamped in work and i have one hour a week to spend on learning Alma (Rhel based commands etc)
So i want to prioritize to learn the differences between Debian VS Rhel environment as i have zero experience to make the most of the few hours i have
I know Linux is Linux and distributions dont really matter as most is the same… But its still different package managers and also configuration files might be different.
I wonder how many times i will mistype and type apt instead of dnf. :sweat_smile:

So why GUI… Its two reasons.
First I’m used to work with GUI environment when i sit at the servers over the KVM switch and I have remote access blocked for higher security. So my workflow have been GUI based for the last decades (blame microsoft for that) so its hardcoded into my spine as i feel i get a better overview and workflow. :smiling_face:
I still use the command-line even in windows for some troubleshooting, but its rare… often its just about adding new functions/shares or monitor the system and events etc. And thats all GUI based.
Its so rare i need to go to command-line so i need my cheat-sheet to remember some commands LOL :sweat_smile:

The second reason is i plan on learning while doing everyday tasks on a second computer, so i will need a desktop environment then. and i like Xfce. Basic simple and no extras. :slight_smile: and Xfce dont work on Wayland yet (as far as i know)

So my steps will become.
So first i will set up a VM so i can screw up (as newbies always do) :scream: and then just restore my screw ups with a snapshot… :sunglasses:
Then i will start using Alma on one of my desktops i do some internet research on to learn its mood and personality, as i will encounter some of its nuances if i need to make an install or tweak or something.
And with only one hour a week for messing around time… then i can get a few more hours a week of “driving experience” if i have it on one desktop.

Then when i start to get a feel for Alma i will install Alma on a few small desktops at home to actually start running docker and then learn the step of setting up a cluster solution for AI usage.
When i feel comfortable enough to not screw up… then i will switch out the OS on my real servers so i know i wont get any downtime more then the install process.

That’s my messy plan. :slight_smile:
If i had more messing around time, i wouldn’t go down this road-plan. :confused: